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Friday, October 23, 2009
The prohibition of Alcohol in the Quran
Please read here for complete references:
http://quran.com/search/alcohol
8 comments:
Anonymous
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In case you are interested,for evidence that alcohol was not completely prohibited in the early stages - check out Quran 4-43.
As for apostasy there is no quranic evidence, however check out these references from Sahih Bukhari: Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57 and 58 since Sharia law and many practices in islam including the rituals in prayer (no of raka'h etc etc) are derived from the Quran and Sunnah both, the law on apostasy as well as the daily prayer rituals stand to this day... A
Thank you for the quotation - I was searching for this because I know friends who say it is ok to drink based on this verse (different story altogether)
I am also curious to learn what you think of the Quran if you think there isn't a God. I am assuming you believe it was written by man.
I looked at the references on apostacy but the Quran clearly says in Sura 5:32
"Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!"
The hadith cannot contradict the Quran so we have to go by what the Quran says here. Again this is my understanding.
The above verse is regarding murder and not regarding the death penalty as in the case of apostasy or adultery (for married persons)... Since the quran is not explicit about the punishment for apostasy, the law has been derived from the sunnah in this case. You might still want to discuss this with an expert on Sharia law to be convinced..
about the alcohol it is the doctrine of abrogation - which basically means that if two quranic verses contradict eachother the one that was revealed the latest prevails..this is what we learnt in school in SL..however it is a complicated science and has to be agreed upon by scholars.. for more details and instances this was applied check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)
Thanks for the suggestions in your previous post.i.e the scholars.. Will check them out..
ps- could u pls remove the previous post - I realised I gave away where I was from in that one...
The above verse is regarding murder and not regarding the death penalty as in the case of apostasy or adultery (for married persons)... Since the quran is not explicit about the punishment for apostasy, the law has been derived from the sunnah in this case. You might still want to discuss this with an expert on Sharia law to be convinced..
about the alcohol it is the doctrine of abrogation - which basically means that if two quranic verses contradict eachother the one that was revealed the latest prevails..this is what we learnt in school ..however it is a complicated science and has to be agreed upon by scholars.. for more details and instances this was applied check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)
Thanks for the suggestions in your previous post.i.e the scholars.. Will check them out.. A
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In case you are interested,for evidence that alcohol was not completely prohibited in the early stages - check out Quran 4-43.
As for apostasy there is no quranic evidence, however check out these references from Sahih Bukhari:
Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17,
Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57 and 58
since Sharia law and many practices in islam including the rituals in prayer (no of raka'h etc etc) are derived from the Quran and Sunnah both, the law on apostasy as well as the daily prayer rituals stand to this day...
A
Thank you for the quotation - I was searching for this because I know friends who say it is ok to drink based on this verse (different story altogether)
I am also curious to learn what you think of the Quran if you think there isn't a God. I am assuming you believe it was written by man.
I also need to find other such rulings which were different at the beginning and were changed later to back this up.
I looked at the references on apostacy but the Quran clearly says in Sura 5:32
"Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!"
The hadith cannot contradict the Quran so we have to go by what the Quran says here. Again this is my understanding.
The above verse is regarding murder and not regarding the death penalty as in the case of apostasy or adultery (for married persons)... Since the quran is not explicit about the punishment for apostasy, the law has been derived from the sunnah in this case. You might still want to discuss this with an expert on Sharia law to be convinced..
about the alcohol it is the doctrine of abrogation - which basically means that if two quranic verses contradict eachother the one that was revealed the latest prevails..this is what we learnt in school in SL..however it is a complicated science and has to be agreed upon by scholars.. for more details and instances this was applied check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)
Thanks for the suggestions in your previous post.i.e the scholars.. Will check them out..
ps- could u pls remove the previous post - I realised I gave away where I was from in that one...
The above verse is regarding murder and not regarding the death penalty as in the case of apostasy or adultery (for married persons)... Since the quran is not explicit about the punishment for apostasy, the law has been derived from the sunnah in this case. You might still want to discuss this with an expert on Sharia law to be convinced..
about the alcohol it is the doctrine of abrogation - which basically means that if two quranic verses contradict eachother the one that was revealed the latest prevails..this is what we learnt in school ..however it is a complicated science and has to be agreed upon by scholars.. for more details and instances this was applied check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)
Thanks for the suggestions in your previous post.i.e the scholars.. Will check them out..
A
In any case I don't think there is a contradiction there
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